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作者: 冰鬼鬼丫头    时间: 2011-12-1 10:58
标题: 看了yrqin 的帖子,我也求批作文


Some people suggest that high school graduate students should go to universities to have higher education, but others encourage students to find jobs to meet the needs of the society. Discuss both views and give your opinion.<br />
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Currently, some press coverage that it is quite difficult for college students to have a decent job. A debate arises, then. High school students should go to universities to have higher education or find job after graduation.<br />
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Some people take Bill Gates as an example to illustrate that one person could achieve success without university diploma. They reckon that work experience is more important than educational background. Bill took the computers to every family and computer changed the world. No one could doubt his achievement. Besides, students could contact various persons. College atmosphere is comparatively easy and comfortable, yet. The former is more beneficial for students.<br />
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In contrast, other people hold opposite opinions. College experience is a crucial part of one’s life. Not only did students obtain friendship and love, but also they establish life belief and value recognition in the university. Despite the fact that not all the students could attain their ideal jobs, most of them take the college life as a precious memory.<br />
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It is not easy to judge which choice is better. Different students have their own opinion in terms of their financial status, exam records, interests etc. Furthermore, due to the large amount of population, students are persuaded to take different method to reach their goals. Educational background and wealthy level are not key factors to judge a person’s success.<br />
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In summary, both statements are reasonable. High school students should be encouraged to make their own decisions. Comprehensive factors should be considered and a great number of elements affect the final results.<br />
多多指点!




作者: tgyaqvj2b    时间: 2011-12-1 21:40


首先抱歉,最近每天都在跟我老公商量结婚的细节,到晚上九点已经困得脑袋不灵,随便点评两句吧。
感觉还是跑题了。题目里至少隐含了如下含义:1、education,work,这两个选择的利与弊。2、最后要给出自己的观点。疲倦不堪的小胖认为,全文从层次——意思的层次而非段落层次——上划分的话,就要针对work说education,针对education说work,这样做到不离题。到最后给出自己的观点呢,是因为你讨论过,而且两大方向都是很明显的利弊各占——这样还是能回到题目,证明题目合理性。所以就算half and half,也是需要给双方面一定支撑。但你前面的内容无关结论,结论的出现突兀生硬。
雅思的作文题其实都很有逻辑性,围绕题目写文章的话不难,中国考生还真是想得不对路子。

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作者: vexcvbdt    时间: 2011-12-2 00:46


怎么说,要严谨严谨再严谨。你花钱来给自己机会,不是为了让考官看模板,而是逼迫他们给你一个值得你付出的金钱的成绩,对自己要求要够高够明确,也要够自信。他们关心的是你对英语有没有感情,不是看你怎么应付考试。这不是励志,是身经百战的小胖同学的考试心得。



作者: 赵力超    时间: 2011-12-2 06:44


题目的中心词在于education ,job,society,自己慢慢体会。你只要体会到这一层,再写起来就爽气得多,自信得多了。



作者: woedbot    时间: 2011-12-2 14:11


小胖简直是个宝, 说话又风趣又在点上, 每天上FREE 一大乐趣就是看你回帖了。
你考G 类吗? 我觉得G类和A类作文有很大区别。 G类很宽泛, 像我这次考的
more and more people live alone now, do you thinkg it is negative or positve development? 我觉得宽得不行, 像一块饼, 不知从何下嘴 , 小胖有啥思路



作者: observavohose    时间: 2011-12-2 17:02


谢谢过奖,看得我都脸红了。我还没考雅思,就在这大言不惭批评考友,大家不拍我就很知足了。我考G类的,口语是最大的难题,一听那个listen to this,1分钟就犯困。。。
这题目是很宽,有点不知从何扯起的感觉。。。如果我来看,从development下手,它暗示了考生要写一篇洋溢现代社会味道的时评短文。可以写一种历史的感觉出来,证明你了解这个发展如何进展,科技进步啊,生活节奏加快啊,这些。至于看好看衰,就从前景往回推导吧,考官不限制,不需要太纠结。
我写命题作文时,习惯从题目里找“门”和结论,找到这两样,之间的通路自然就有了。。。。



作者: eprfn795245    时间: 2011-12-3 04:55


我觉得就从雅思作文的要求来看,LZ的这个文章立意和结构应该是够了,不会因为论证偏差扣分吧~



作者: rjunmsnw    时间: 2011-12-3 06:41


作为一个常年活跃在文学领域的人士,小胖可以负责的告诉大家,cambridge的专家在命题方面是负责和严谨的。一个负责的语言学家会给出一个逻辑清晰没有矛盾的题目,所以审题这件事可以决定生死。我说的“门”,决定行文的思路、角度、风格的东西,在每个剑桥作文题里都有,所以请一定要多多练习审题。最后的终极目标是让内容和题目浑然天成不可分割,让考官服气了。
你们可以不信小胖,但要相信cambridge的金字招牌。
今天不聊了,看2011维多利亚秀去了。。。不困了。。。要减肥。。。。

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作者: wzqf5844    时间: 2011-12-3 16:26


可以让考官不给他高分,名正言顺的,这个考生根本不懂题目。。。我们做杂志时,每个选题都有很深的解释阐述,读者不知道而已。。。。。

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作者: 81gyhuvdt3    时间: 2011-12-3 17:33


Some people think that good health is a basic human need, so medical service should be run by the government instead of profit-making companies. Do you think the disadvantages of private health care outweigh the advantages?
小胖来看看这题,很诡异,背景里介绍了政府来运营medical service ,但是问题里只提到 private health care ,你说文章里要不要分析政府运营的好处呢~



作者: f28frh33u5    时间: 2011-12-3 20:58


没觉得诡异啊。看内衣秀看得要喷鼻血了,后赶全美音乐奖颁奖,还有那么多超模。。。咳,说正题,为什么题目会有这种说法呢,这要从资本主义的一切商业化的经济制度说起。而在医学领域,你说它是否可以商业化呢,又该商业化到何种程度?部分?完全?在资本社会里,这个问题怎么回答?很复杂的。在资本主义社会的基本制度下,涉及到商品的领域是应该遵循商业准则来运作,但它同时也是人类的基本需求——开头就这么说了,所以题目尖锐指出了这其中的两相矛盾,完全矛盾,可能要一个instead of另一个。事实上,每个资本主义国家(中国不算)都在探索建立一个最合理最平衡的医疗体系,让医学可以发展,让大家都能拥有健康。。。如果有了这个解释,你是不是觉得250个字还不跑题,其实很容易的?

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作者: 可爱的小猪头00    时间: 2011-12-3 23:06


在资本主义国家,政府不能过多参与经济事件,否则算作弊,裁判上场。这个题目里有一种希望考生深入讨论的诉求,嗯,想想美国次贷危机、希腊破产那些,他们的忧患是考生要理解的,理解了给你高分。



作者: 浪无罪    时间: 2011-12-4 06:16


但是问题只问了private health care ,文章还分不分析政府呢,找你的说法应该2边比较才能有一个结论,但是题目只问了一边,很可恶



作者: Nrpounwl    时间: 2011-12-4 15:00


恩, development 是个重要的词, 我当成利弊题了, 写跑题了, 也呆板无趣, 看这样6分还多给了。

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第一段&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;介绍背景,现在确实很多人不和父母一起住了, 孩子们自己住了, 这样的做法有好处也有坏处
第二段&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1)这样做有助于培养和谐的家庭气氛,因为父母和自己生活习惯不一样, 孩子有更多的social activities and job
commitments, 所以他们经常回来很晚,而父母总是做了很多好吃的,孩子总不回来, 长久下来,父母会很失望的
2)孩子单独住,有助于培养independence , 他们需要自己照顾自己,从做饭到清洁都要自己住,

第三段&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;单独住也有不好的地方, 例如lead to loose connection, parents fell lonely 之类的
第四段&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;单独住&nbsp;&nbsp;advantages outweigh drawbacks, 但是children 即使单独住,也要经常和父母联系



作者: 文明仁化    时间: 2011-12-4 20:37


当然可以分析政府管理了,只要能用来证明你的观点就行。
比如你说私营益处多,那么你可以把公营的坏处说一下,
反之亦然。

别把事情搞复杂了,雅思是考英文,不是考逻辑和见地,观点和论据2一点没关系。当然也别太2了。





作者: 张一要    时间: 2011-12-5 08:07


我的理解是private health's advantage 就是public health's drawback, 反之亦然 。
所以论证的时候, 加点对比, 应该够了



作者: ya7m0e2f2z5    时间: 2011-12-5 15:43


YUEXMA 大师, 你看的 a point of view觉得句子连接, 表意转呈和好的例子, 有链接或名字没?
我也读读, 提高一下。



作者: huang3059    时间: 2011-12-5 15:55


嗯,没错。写作文好比做人,小胖的分析大家都懂,因为我没有走装B路线,也坚决的认为2一点傻一点没关系,前后不要矛盾不要跑题就行。练好审题还是很有用的,对于文人来说,一般人再怎么修饰,也遮不住灵魂的瑕疵。。。。



作者: 68ua73q51s    时间: 2011-12-5 19:35


Health, like other elements such as education and freedom, is essential to people’s wellbeing. However, many private medical services are so expensive to afford by the poor people that some people argue that government should run the medical service in order to ensure that all people can access to it. This essay will analyse the advantages and disadvantages of private health service.

Obviously, the main weakness of private medical service is that it cannot cover the majority of people, especially the needy. As a basic right of human being, healthy care should available for all citizens equally. Most of private medical centers, however, are giving priority to profit rather than fulfilling the obligation of making people needing the medical care can access to them. In other words, people getting serious diseases would not be cured if they cannot afford the costs. That is why many people insist that government should take the responsibility to ensure all the citizens, no matter rich or poor, can receive treatment if they have got ills.

On the other hand, private health care is also beneficial to the society. For one thing, it can reduce the financial burden of the government. Admittedly, establishing a mature medical system for all people is a tough task for many governments owing to the limitation of budget. But private medical centers can fill this blank. For another thing, private medical service gives those people who are able to afford the addition costs an option besides the public medical center. Because most wealth people are tend to enjoy better service like private doctor or no-waiting hospital beds. All these services are only available by the private health center.

To sum up, although private medical service has its weakness, it still useful due to its special functions.

写了一下,希望没有跑题。。。



作者: 灵魂出翘    时间: 2011-12-5 20:03


没跑,厉害。



作者: 振雄山庄    时间: 2011-12-6 01:31


小胖你是学文学的吗,怎么感觉文学功底相当深厚啊,呵呵



作者: 漫街漫友    时间: 2011-12-6 10:08


Currently, some press coverage that, 语病,谓语?it is quite difficult for college students to have a decent job. A debate arises, then. High school students should go to universities to have higher education or find job after graduation 这句话不能构成全文的论述的发起点,只是就事论事.

缺Topic Sentence Some people take Bill Gates as an example to illustrate that one person could achieve success without university diploma. They reckon that work experience is more important than educational background. Bill took the computers to every family and computer changed the world. No one could doubt his achievement., 与全文的讨论不相干,属于废话Besides, students could contact various persons.用词不准确contact,生硬,Chinglish College atmosphere is comparatively easy and comfortable, yet. The former is more beneficial for students. 句子之间的关系混乱,指代不清

In contrast, other people hold opposite opinions,看不出来opposite opinions是什么?因为上一段没有给出opinon;即使有,opposite是什么样的也很费解. College experience is a crucial part of one’s life. Not only did students obtain friendship and love, but also they establish life belief and value recognition in the university not only, but also似乎有语病?因为我几乎没用过倒装(我觉得华而不实不如不用),所以不敢肯定. Despite the fact that not all the students could attain their ideal jobs, most of them take the college life as a precious memory. 过于主观,没有说服力

It is not easy to judge which choice is better.&nbsp;&nbsp;Different students have their own opinion in terms of 这个短语用在这里不太合适,regarding更好 their financial status, exam records, interests etc. Furthermore, due to the large amount of population, students are persuaded to take different method to reach-&gt;realize their goals. Educational background and wealthy level are not key factors to judge a person’s success. 凑字数用的

In summary, both statements are reasonable. High school students should be encouraged to make their own decisions. Comprehensive factors should be considered and a great number of elements affect the final results,很生硬.

从立意来说,还是可以接受的。但是确实不怎么切题。我在另一楼会尝试解析一下题目的要求。小胖在审题方面有自己独到的见解,境界也比较高。当然能做到更好,如果做不到,那么好好把握一下审题的常用技巧,那么审题这一块应该还不至于成为你最大的毛病。

对于你的问题,主要还是词汇的不准确使用,一些低级语法错以及论证思路的问题。我建议你多看看雅思范文和其它写作书籍,研究一下论证的技巧。

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作者: 63gyhuraf2    时间: 2011-12-6 16:00


Some people suggest that high school graduate students should go to universities to have higher education, but others encourage students to find jobs to meet the needs of the society. Discuss both views and give your opinion.

题目解析和讨论:我们先看task words:discuss both views &amp; give your opinion。要求我们讨论两种观点,然后给出看法。这意味我们需要进行比较和对比这两种观点了,不然何来‘看法’? 两派观点我在我的那个帖子里,module 2后面2.7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Different points of view有过介绍。建议你回头看看。那里说的是在一个段落里比较两个观点的。这里可以用上也可以不用,重要的是你在阐述两派观点的时候要做到客观,不能写自己的看法!!!这个细节我帖子里面有介绍的,你可以抽空看看。

如果在一个段落里比较两个观点了,那么应该还有另一段落是专门写自己的opinion的,最后一段总结。另一种写法是你先用一个段落讨论第一种观点并解释原因,再用一个段落阐述第二种观点并解释原因,然后用一段写自己的观点并解释原因(需要compare&amp;contrast这两种观点了,具体看你选择什么样的opinion),最后一段总结。

至于limit words:‘Some people suggest that high school graduate students should go to universities to have higher education’ 以及 ‘others encourage students to find jobs to meet the needs of the society’ 其实是很好理解的了。注意给每种观点一些合理的解释就行了,然后根据上述的布局谋篇的方案进行阐述。


Some people think that good health is a basic human need, so medical service should be run by the government instead of profit-making companies. Do you think the disadvantages of private health care outweigh the advantages?
小胖来看看这题,很诡异,背景里介绍了政府来运营medical service ,但是问题里只提到 private health care ,你说文章里要不要分析政府运营的好处呢~

题目解析和讨论:这里主要的task words:outweigh。那么自己先想好到底是A outweigh B呢还是B outweigh A呢?这个确定了以后,我们细看一下limit words。

limit words:disadvantages of private health care,advantages of private health care 以及 good health is a basic human need so medical service should be run by the government instead of profit-making companies。这里有个关键的地方private health care和profit-making companies有什么关系,是不是同一东西?如果根本没有任何关系,那么这道题目是有问题。因此这两个概念之间一定有密切的关系。大胆点,你把它们认为是等价的东西,可以相互替换的,然后进行讨论,应该也是没有问题的。这样看的话,是不是就很好讨论了?怎么论述,那还得看你的观点是什么,这就涉及到论证的技巧,小姨的10天作文里有很好的参考。这里不展开来说了。至于你担心的政府运营的好处是不是要写,这个其实不应该成为你审题的一个绊脚石。关键是看当你论述‘A outweigh B呢还是B outweigh A’的时候,你的论述能避开‘政府运营’这个概念吗?如果能完全避开,那么你不提政府运营的好处也没什么问题;但是如果政府运营和private health care是密切相关的东西,甚至是互补的东西,此时你的问题就不是问题了。

总之,雅思作文的题目审题其实只要稍加训练就好了。当然背景知识自己总得有一些吧。还好一般来说雅思作文的题目都是会考虑到不同国家地区,不同文化和教育背景的考生的,所以一般而言不会至于无话可说或题目都没法理解的地步。当然这个不是绝对的,有的人积累的确实太少了,那么就需要看看过去的题目了,然后根据自己的缺陷去改进背景知识,这方面小姨的10天作文的最后有很好的分类整理了。 反正,我认为雅思作文肯定不会让你讨论诸如‘基督教和伊斯兰教的异同’ 或 ‘你更倾向同意那一个教义的’这样的话题的。雅思考试最终的目的是要测试你的英文写作水平,这点心里要十分清楚。

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作者: 冰鬼鬼丫头    时间: 2011-12-6 21:15


wow,好厉害,多谢指点。俺会努力的





作者: 冰鬼鬼丫头    时间: 2011-12-7 08:14


该提前恭祝新婚快乐。这样的日子竟然能抽空给我点评,太感动了

我会在审题方面多下功夫的,继续努力





作者: 莼鲈思    时间: 2011-12-7 12:52


还是yrqin给力
能帮忙点评一下我那篇拙作么



作者: jiyxyzgnqw    时间: 2011-12-7 16:58


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14346040

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14416799

推荐以上两篇文章,学到一成半成就足够了。



作者: fivxdirk    时间: 2011-12-8 04:31


Health, like [other elements such as,delete] education and freedom, is essential to people’s wellbeing.加上一句过渡:Generally, health care can be provided either by the government or by private companies. However,突兀了,没有做好准备就跳过来;加上前面红色那句就顺畅多了。, many private medical services are so expensive to afford by the poor people that some people argue that government should run the medical service in order to ensure that all people can access to it. This essay will analyse the advantages and disadvantages of private health service. 有点淡而无味了。这里该开门见山提出观点:This essay will argue that there are more advantages of private health services than disadvantages.

[缺主题句:On the one hand, there are some weaknesses of private medical services.] Obviously-&gt;Specifically,, the main weakness of private medical service is that it cannot cover the majority of people, especially the needy. As a basic right of human being, healthy-&gt;healthcare should [be] available for-&gt;to更好? all citizens equally. Most of private medical centers, however, are giving-&gt;give priority to profits rather than fulfilling the obligation of making [people needing the medical care can access to them,这句话值得斟酌,改起来比较费事]. In other words-&gt;As a result更贴切, people getting-&gt;suffering from serious diseases would not cured-&gt;be able to receive proper treatment in time if they cannot afford the costs-&gt;cost of private health services. That is why-&gt;Therefore, many-&gt;some people insist that government should take the responsibility to ensure all the citizens, no matter rich or poor, can receive treatment if they have got-&gt;get ills-&gt;ill.

On the other hand, private health care is also beneficial to the society. For one thing, it can reduce the financial burden of the government. Admittedly, establishing a mature medical system for all people is a tough task for many governments owing to the limitation of budget. But private medical centers can fill this blank. For another thing, private medical service gives those people who are able to afford the addition costs an option besides the public medical center. Because most wealth people are tend to enjoy better service like private doctor or no-waiting hospital beds. All these services are only available by the private health center.

To sum up, although private medical service has its weakness, it still useful due to its special functions.

没时间了。。。。只改这么多吧。基本功还是不错的,努力改进改进,6.5和7以上应该没问题。

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作者: hhfylwogsw    时间: 2011-12-8 16:06


不日结婚——具体日期不便透露,谢谢朋友们祝福,先请假了,回来再聊吧。



作者: 95后小花花    时间: 2011-12-8 19:20


Some people take Bill Gates as an example to illustrate...
感觉这个不地道吧,illustrate一般形容用图表来描述,这里用argue或简单的用show会不会更好呢?



作者: 1994950gca    时间: 2011-12-8 22:53


感觉最近作文有所长进,
第一:听了你的劝告下决心重新学了一遍语法,语法错误大为减少,遣词造句能力有所提高
第二:看了你的step by step,对整个文章结构及句子的内容和作用有了更深的认识
感激之情无以言表~祝一切顺利



作者: 聪颖小葛    时间: 2011-12-9 07:44


找到感觉了就好



作者: 我心伤痛    时间: 2011-12-9 13:12


憋了一天,上来给你们讲个笑话。
今天早晨一爬起来——周末的早晨再勤快也不能比太阳起的早——就看到沪江有个四六级模考比赛,还有几分钟就开始了。比赛的小奖是学币,大奖有学币还有沪元,我肯定是更想要沪元,可以看听写原文。感觉奖品设置有点2,这次的学币出奇的好拿。冲着奖品丰厚诱人就厚着脸皮参加了。准中年妇女去做四级模拟,脸皮够厚吧。这还没完,后来我家那位学车回来,我妈喊屋子都成猪窝了也不收拾,我就一边做题一边使唤他去叠被。结果还失败了,在报分帖里排了排名次,要前面十几位童鞋都放弃,我才能得大奖,感觉很对不住老公。。。

东北人确实给我心里留下很多的阴影。虽然有些事自己很努力不去回想,但现实是无情的。我的男人么,除了干家务陪我做题学英语,其他时候也很让我觉得异常幸福和自由。花钱在电影院看鸿门宴,我把大衣帽子一盖,腿也搭在他身上开始打盹。他凑近看看睡着了没有,也不烦我。今天上午做题,中午去新房看装修,下午看电影,到那就撑不住了。但是不是每个男人都能如此宽容。反正我很诚恳的说,做跟文字有关的事,比如猜别人的心思,看一部不咋地的电影还要总结,都是很累的。生活里的小胖追求轻松,不修边幅不讲文明,不用分析一个字一个字背后的含义和感情。我这么说,是因为六年里的时时刻刻都在提醒自己,还要为当初的心愿努力活下去,活下去,跟心愿相比,移民不移民并不是最重要的。
最近在游戏论坛里看到关于星巴克的帖子,大家讨论装逼,把本来普通的生活硬是高高的挂起来,我一直是反感的,或许东北人觉得这是一个人上进的表现。没法说服别人,倒是有感慨,终于有机会过自己想过的日子了,就算被某些人轻视或者笑话不上进,那也于我无关,于我那被洗脑被控制的老公无关。小胖这颗心也是人心,有软得不行的部分,也有硬得自己都不能接受的地方。
真心来说,当年王大夫选择在足迹那么大的论坛公开侮辱我,如果最后要换我一个心软一个了结,就请回到足迹去结束。玩不起就跑是小胖在东北四年对东北人最深的印象,他的消失不让我意外,却也很失望。
我失望了六年,从没观众到上千观众,从上千观众再到没观众,一个男人这样真是让人瞧不起。

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作者: crxp2278    时间: 2011-12-10 00:21


小胖又开始自言自语了,看不懂。。。不知道谁是target audience









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