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标题: acs职业评估工作经验被扣了四年,悲剧 [打印本页]

作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-18 02:56
标题: acs职业评估工作经验被扣了四年,悲剧


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今天早上收到ACS的result letter, 但是一看我的职业评估工作经验被扣了四年, 得从2011年三月算起了<br />
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Your Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Science and Technolog) from xxx University completed Jun 2007 has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Bachelor Degree with a major in computing<br />
The following employment after March 2011 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately&nbsp;&nbsp;skilled&nbsp;&nbsp;level and relevant to 261112 (System Analyst) of the ANZSCO Code.<br />
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Date: 03/07-10/10 (3yrs 7mths)<br />
Position:&nbsp;&nbsp;System Analyst<br />
Employer: xxx<br />
Country: CHINA<br />
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Date: 10/10-03/13 (2yrs 5mths)<br />
Position:&nbsp;&nbsp;Senior Engineer<br />
Employer: xxx<br />
Country: CHINA<br />
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这不是意味着我只有两年的工作经验了? 悲剧, 望兄弟姐妹指点一下。




作者: kimeking    时间: 2013-6-18 11:29


System analyst 不是261112吗?



作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-18 17:00



是的, 我打错了



作者: 不是股神2008    时间: 2013-6-19 01:02


如果移民局不承认这4年,我们去DIAC门口静坐吧。。。。。。



作者: kzdmd    时间: 2013-6-19 01:24



我觉得扣念头简直是有病。



作者: uneea45410    时间: 2013-6-19 03:58


可以重新评么



作者: 广州安徽人    时间: 2013-6-19 11:32


貌似不太像写得不好引起的claim failure,因为从第二个工作的当中开扣,太狠了



作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-19 12:05


也没说not closely related to the nominated occupation的话, 扣四年实在有点说不过去啊



作者: 家鑫灯饰    时间: 2013-6-19 22:20


ACS是不是疯了?除非是minor in computing才是扣4年的,既然评你是major in computing,再扣你4年算什么。如果第一份工作不close,可以不算这段经验,但是事实上他们算了这段。

匪夷所思



作者: 叫我怎么说你    时间: 2013-6-20 07:00


写错了吧,发信问下。。。
你提供的资料里提过2011/3这个时间么?



作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-20 08:51



没有提过这个时间啊, 这个是他们自己定的时间, 如果实在是not closely related 的话,应该在result letter中写明才是啊



作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-20 13:59


Your experience between 03/07 to 03/11 has been considered in the skill assessment application in determining the outcome of your application

As your qualification has been assessed as not closely related to the nominated occupation you are required to demonstrate 4 years of experience to gain a suitable outcome.

他们的回复, 感觉就是找个理由, 然后扣你年头



作者: 幽草自怜    时间: 2013-6-20 19:30


是你的这段工作描述写的不是很match这个职位吗?



作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-21 06:02



应该是 不会的



作者: 98gyhuvzg9    时间: 2013-6-21 15:42


ACS已经出了官方通告,关于skilled experience的门槛的问题:
ACS Skill Assessment Result Letters

All ACS Skill Assessment Result Letters report on a date (mm/yy) of when an applicant becomes ‘skilled’.

This date will be when the&nbsp;&nbsp;applicant meets the ACS Requirements, these requirements are detailed in the Summary of Criteria

Please note, only employment completed after the date the applicant has met the ACS requirements will be counted as skilled employment.

而且作为代理人,我们律师行也收到了ACS的邮件:

Australian Computer Society Skill Assessment Result Letters

All Skill Assessment Result Letters issued by the Australian Computer Society report on a date (mm/yy) of when an applicant becomes ‘skilled’.

This date is the time the applicant meets the requirements as detailed in the Summary of Criteria

Some examples demonstrating how this is applied in practice include:

· The date specified for skilled employment for a Bachelor degree or above that is not closely related to the nominated occupation is upon completion of 4 years’ experience.

· For a Bachelor degree or above that is closely related to the nominated occupation, it is upon completion of 2 years’ experience . For the 2 year requirement this must be in the past 10 years or if 4 years are required this can be in any time period, whichever is earlier.

· For qualifications below a Bachelor degree or for a Bachelor degree or above with a minor in computing, the skilled employment date will be upon completion of 5 years in the past 10 years, or 6 years in any time period.

If the date specified for skilled employment is earlier than the completion of the qualification; the date will be noted as the completion date of the qualification.

If the applicant has multiple qualifications, the date will be based on whichever results in the earliest date.

Please note, only employment completed after the date the applicant has met the ACS requirements will be counted as skilled employment.


For further information please email [email protected]



作者: 拐弯抹角66    时间: 2013-6-21 21:17


没看出来咋评的
你是cs的专业ICT没问题为啥要扣4年?
而且你作为sa的工作经验是前3年 要是扣的话不是就相当与直接扣没了?
这么说不管工作的职位现在是啥 比如开始的时候1年sa之后哪怕10年se了也可以把10年都算成sa?



作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-22 03:36



这么说我应该扣两年才是, 不应该是四年才对啊



作者: xdap2258    时间: 2013-6-22 12:19


· The date specified for skilled employment for a Bachelor degree or above that is not closely related to the nominated occupation is upon completion of 4 years’ experience.

--------&nbsp;&nbsp;难道是认为你的bachelor degree &quot;is not closely related to&quot; 申请职位?&nbsp;&nbsp;计算机专业就是计算机专业啊。那如果评网络工程师难道还需要个网络工程的专业才行?



作者: 2u0916h0    时间: 2013-6-22 16:36


你这个事挺严重的,COMPUTING MAJOR的DEGREE可能和261112不是高度相关,所以扣了你4年,你可以review成261313,这样只扣2年。并且2611组的配额每年很少,没有优势。为啥要评261112呢。

话说你可以问问ACS,261112的高度相关专业是什么。挺奇怪的。MAJOR了还按MINOR扣。



作者: 小李说事儿    时间: 2013-6-23 00:37


All your experience has been assessed as closely related to the nominated occupation however it is only deemed ‘skilled’ once you have met the ACS requirements.

回复了我这段话, 这个都成文字游戏了 郁闷



作者: 94后杀大狗    时间: 2013-6-23 06:51



你问ACS,在summary of criteria里面,ICT MAJOR BACHELOR DEGREE是不是需要 2 years of closely ralated expericence。如果是为何扣4年。如果不是summary of criteria不算数?



作者: 70gwt1sfy1l    时间: 2013-6-23 09:46


扯淡的ACS...



作者: Thacerderma    时间: 2013-6-23 13:40



我也觉得,楼主第二个职业是261313吧,第一段工作经验和第二段不属于一类所以被扣了?



作者: 北大王    时间: 2013-6-23 19:33


major还扣4年,匪夷所思阿.

只有说&quot;your qualification has been assessed as not closely related to the nominated occupation&quot; 才可能扣4年.
那么,什么样的专业才算得上是 closely related to the occupation?

已经是读计算机专业了,还不够close,有点变态.



作者: 有形de翅膀    时间: 2013-6-23 23:57


就欠楼主断了后路的这样的,找个律师跟丫ACS打官司。



作者: yuanii9sed    时间: 2013-6-24 02:01


最关键的问题是ACS口中的skilled employment 是不是DIAC口中要求的related working experience, 包含的子集关系?还是完全对等的关系?



作者: Bnbivwst    时间: 2013-6-24 09:30


我觉得这个完全没道理,ACS什么时候变得这么不讲理了?



作者: hageo    时间: 2013-6-24 16:14


哎,后来楼主的进展是什么?



作者: 满心喜欢    时间: 2013-6-25 00:56




始终不明白这样做的目的到底是为什么??
达到评估要求的那几年是否还算在EOI的工作加分里?从上面引文来看原意应该是不算的了。



作者: keapmwldz    时间: 2013-6-25 08:22




应该是因为工作与专业不closely related才扣的四年。你说的对,应该review,尽量改成相关的code。







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