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标题: 去趟公证处,带回来一堆棘手问题,请大侠指点(评估阶段) [打印本页]

作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-14 03:16
标题: 去趟公证处,带回来一堆棘手问题,请大侠指点(评估阶段)


第一个,我以前学校是XX学院,如今改成了XX大学,然而,学位证毕业证早在05年留学时已经公证过,公证文件现在是否还有效?我打算要来学校的改名证明再做一次公证,跟前面的公证书一起作为证明,可以吗?<br />
第二个,出生情况证明表,今天一起从天津某区公证处领的,上面要求盖所在单位人事部门的公章,移民的事不想让单位人知道,这个该怎么办?请指点。<br />
要不我去骗领导,说我准备登记结婚,想做下公证,公证处需要这个东西。。。<br />
第一个也不是为了省钱,主要是公证申请表上还是有单位盖章的地方,所以想绕过去。<br />
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作者: sd76hujoyc    时间: 2011-11-14 05:44


第一个问题不大

第二个
出生公证为什么要你单位盖章??
按道理需要你父母结婚证 户口簿 你自己出生证明



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-14 07:22


回2楼,我也纳闷,怎么连我在哪生的都得有单位的证明?出生证明怎么看都像去派出所办的东西啊。

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作者: 语丝缕缕    时间: 2011-11-14 09:01


如果你留学时的学历学位公证、出生公证还在,那些东西都可以用。没有作废。
或者直接拿着这些东西到原来公证处交钱换新的,又快又便宜。
另外出生公证可以在出生地或父母所在地,由父母代办。



作者: ghongxin    时间: 2011-11-14 18:45


多开几份,使用英语。
到学校办事时,如果能开出《汉语普通话授课证明》就顺便搞定,用不了几个钱。留着备用,一定会有用。



作者: iips50gykm    时间: 2011-11-15 00:50


出生公证的话,如果有医院开的出生证明,或者独生子女证,加上父母的户口簿,应该就不需要你的人事档案管理处出具的证明了。不过建议你这个问题再详细问问公证处,有必要时换多个公证处问问,出生公证确实是比较麻烦的东西,每个地方的要求都不一定完全一样,如果你父母和你不在同一个城市,或者你自己不是这个城市出生的话,都会费些周折。



作者: unief    时间: 2011-11-15 09:27


公证应该是不过期的。。。所以不用担心。



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-15 14:33


谢谢楼上各位的指点。我肯定是本地生本地长的本地人士没错,但是独生子女证应该是扔了,太古老了,当初真没想到还要用那个。学校的证明倒是可以随便开,现在学校教务处管这些事的人是我大学时一个铁哥们,都说好了,需要啥就找他。



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-15 15:15



中国办公证都是去户籍所在地办,我们这就两个公证处,估计另一家也是一样的标准。我妈生我的医院已经拆了,独生子女证99%是扔了,还是想想编瞎话盖单位公章吧。



作者: m8xhyuuw5f    时间: 2011-11-15 19:00


没有医院原版的出生证明和独生子女证的话,还可以试试到你出生后报户口的派出所开出生证明,可能也可以交给公证处做出出生公证。我就是走的这条路子,因为我不是独生子女,而当时医院的出生证明都是上交给派出所报户口用了。当然还是得由你那里的公证处说了算。



作者: 线人理财    时间: 2011-11-15 21:19


当时也是那个死人中介让我老公去单位开个出生证明,再公证,结果被人事弹回来了,说你家的关系,我怎么证明,我又不认识你爸爸妈妈的。

后来不行再让老公父母快递什么结婚证,独生子女证明等等等。。。。在办下来的。



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-16 02:56


各位好心人,再次感谢大家的建议和帮助。告诉大家个好消息,刚才在当年留学准备的文件里找到一份公证书,随便看了看,里面写着我是82年某月某日出生,爸爸是谁,妈妈是谁,我们家住在哪里。最后一句话,兹证明我是上面二人的女儿。越看越觉得这份文件很有用,就百度了一下出生公证的格式,果然,这就是我的出生公证啊



作者: yli0f8o39d    时间: 2011-11-16 12:28


我的出生证明用户口簿就搞定,父母和我在同一本户口簿里,直接就让公证了。



作者: pydwraew7o    时间: 2011-11-16 23:21


学校改名可以让学校出个证明文件,然后到公证处公正就可以了
不想让公司知道移民,需要公司盖章的时候就说自己准备出国旅游,需要某某文件盖章……



作者: h9903vosm    时间: 2011-11-17 00:08




你说的这份公证书可能是你申请留学时办的亲属关系公证,内容基本和出生公证雷同。
有这份文件的原件和复印件,到原来的公证处,凭身份证、户口本等就可以办出生公证。



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-17 04:00



搁我们单位,全国500强的操蛋国企,不到最后一刻,凡事一定不要往出国俩字上面靠。反正我要是成功南移了,必然会在单位引发一次激潮的。社会主义真好,新闻联播真好。。。



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-17 05:30


Dear Sir,

I am a Chinese applicant of engineer assessment.Now I have a question about certifications.About 5 years ago I applied for studying in Australia.I applied for and got a certification of relationship from Chinese Notary Office.That document includes my parents' name,birthday, and mine.But it also includes the address of the former unit we lived in at that time.
Now,under Chinese law if I want to get birth certifcation I should notice my company first.I really really do not want my colleagues to know anything about this before I can be sure of everything.
So I wonder if I could use this certification to apply for the engineer assessment?Or I must use a certification of birth.This is my question.

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作者: 其实饭饭    时间: 2011-11-17 12:53


我觉得按照你之前的描述,那份公证书就是出生公证啊。有你的出生年月日,你父母的名字,出生城市,应该还有身份证号码吧?我的出生公证就是这样的。实在不放心,你也可以像半仙建议的,用这份东西去原来的公证处重新做出生公证,应该不用再通过人事档案管理员了。

EA没有看到你真实的文件,估计不会给你一个确定的答复。



作者: qome2704    时间: 2011-11-17 16:54


出生证明是医院开的~和单位有什么关系~~~公证处也是拿着户口~医院证明办的丫~~~



作者: 963656482    时间: 2011-11-18 02:20


LZ那个东西就是出生公证了。有点好奇当年是怎么办出来的
不过其实这个东西就是同一个城市不同公证处要求的材料都未必一样得。确实有的公证处比较脑残,啥东西都要单位证明,出生结婚这些事情,关单位毛事阿。这年头了还计划经济时代思维,早点关门倒闭了算。



作者: 天生小小小虫    时间: 2011-11-18 07:05


还是换个公证处吧~~~~



作者: 豆腐干风格    时间: 2011-11-18 15:45


lz搞定了就最好了。其实一个公证处不给办可能换一个就给办了,一个公证处要这些材料可能换一个就要别的材料了……多问几家最好,公证处以人为本啊……



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-18 23:58


  EA刚刚回信了,那个公证就是他们认可的出生证明,我放心大胆的交上去没问题。当年怎么办下来的现在是说不清了,天朝才子们在官僚的方面太有才了。



作者: jose_feliciano    时间: 2011-11-19 05:46


第一个,完全不必要,那个学院和大学,国外所有移民签证都不会分那么清楚。

第二个,不用给理由,直接让办事处的给工证了就是,为何一定要告诉他理由?



作者: puaui909772    时间: 2011-11-19 11:28


我就怕遇到这样的问题,所以请了中介Alan,他们对资料的格式和各种特殊情况有经验,花点钱少走弯路,赶新政,资料妥当还是不错的



作者: 152125    时间: 2011-11-19 15:47


出生公证是没有有效期的,只有结婚公证和无型公证有有效期,好像是一年



作者: yyfrl310ww    时间: 2011-11-19 23:48


Sorry again, I can't type Chinese on this computer because I am not at home.
I think it is not true that English speaking teachers are always the best teachers.&nbsp;&nbsp;You need teaching from Chinese speaking teachers.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are the ones who convey English to you.&nbsp;&nbsp;My Professor was from Cambridge University, but he understood the Lunyu and Tang Shi very well and was able to show me how to understand the depth and beauty of the Chinese language in ways that I can never forget.
But we must be realistic.&nbsp;&nbsp;English is a living language and native speakers of English are the models in speaking and in writing. So at certain stages and in certain ways, you need the advice and tuition of native speakers of English.
What I do is to use Chinese where necessary, where convenient and where it saves time, in order to assist students.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have found that my methodology in teaching is efficient.&nbsp;&nbsp;It saves time and that means that you get results more quickly and in the end you are going to save money. IELTS is not a poker machine (laohuji) or a lottery. Don't do the test many times, over and over.&nbsp;&nbsp;Learn efficiently. --Richard Johnson ('Zhang Lijia')



作者: yowpv    时间: 2011-11-20 11:19


谢谢您的指点和建议。我已经整整五年没用过英语,所以那封信里的错误到处都是,让您见笑。
Although there must be many differents between different languages.One of the same things is,which I describe as &quot;The right things are always the perfect things.&quot; I mean both&nbsp;&nbsp;Chinese and English can make people feel something if we use it correctly. In fact this is the reason we can learn to use non native language,or recall it after many years in only a few days.



作者: nolleyroiltew    时间: 2011-11-20 18:14




Hi Dr Zhang,

I agree with you to a large extent. Indeed, one should not sit IELTS tests over and over again (without working hard on improving English), especially when their English is still not good enough to achieve scores that they desire.

However, in my view, if they have already achieved IELTS scores which are quite close to their goals, they could consider sitting IELTS tests a bit more frequently. The reasons could be twofold. Firstly, I don't think IELTS is absolutely objective by which I mean IELTS may become a poker machine in certain circumstances. For example, IELTS examiners of Speaking and Writing parts may have different tastes and slightly different standards of both parts, which can then result in different scores on the same work of one candidate. Secondly, it is unlikely that one candidate would achieve the same results in several tests even taking all of them within a very short period. Actually, it is common to see quite different scores in two consecutive IETLS tests (perhaps only one week gap between the two tests) of the same candidate. Take myself as an example. I have experienced all the following cases:
i) I got 7 in writing and 6.5 in speaking in one test and shortly I got 6.5 in writing and 7 in speaking (3rd and 4th tests).
ii) I got 6.5 in writing and 7 in speaking in one test, shortly I got 7 in writing and 6.5 in speaking and before long I got 6.5 in writing and 7 in speaking in one test again (5th, 6th and 7th tests).
iii) In the Listening tests, I got 7, 9, 7 in three consecutive IELTS tests.
iv) In the Reading tests, I got 8.5, 7, 6.5, 8.5 in four consecutive IELTS tests.
As a result, I don't think IELTS is absolutely far away from being a lottery, especially when one can get quite close to their goals in their IELTS tests.

Nevertheless, your advice is indeed helpful for IELTS candidates who only achieve poor results. Because those results indicate that they still have a long way to go to achieve their goals.

By the way, I don't think '' is a formal expression. From my point of view, a more formal expression would be ''. (If I make any mistakes about this, please accept my apology.)



作者: an94hujrif    时间: 2011-11-21 05:00





如果你只有1份这个公证书的话,记得先扫描,否则交给EA手头就没有了,因为e-lodge DIAC的时候是需要出生公证扫描件的

另外可能可以不交EA 出生公证书原件,你可以只复印一个护照的首页给EA就可以了,我就是用护照首页复印件申请ACS的,但是不太清楚EA是否有强制规定

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